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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:28 pm    Post subject: @ 13:1......to hell with leaded race fuel Reply with quote

Im finally gonna do something you chaps cannot


E85 baby Cool

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried it before but finding fuel became a challenge. It goes bad quickly so stations drop it if there isn't enough volume to justify the tank and the pump to sell it.

That and in Florida (a major producer of alcohol) they do not sell it because three companies control what gets distributed to all of the stations in the state (at least south of I-10), and they want you to buy their gas, not alcohol, that they don't get a kick-back from the refineries for moving product.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually its not a big deal out here. So many people use it in tbeir drag/ street cars,with practical applications
It stores way longer than gasoline
as far as fuel system goes it doesnt take much. Dont use paper filters and replace filters often with your first 3-4 tankfulls
this is in a nutshell......im still learning as well
Its not as corrosive as people think ( im talking practically not scientifically/ chemicaly)
Alot of guys out here have run e85 in their car for 10+ years without issue

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It isn't corrosive at all if you can keep the water vapor out of the tank it is stored in (CO2 sprayed in to displace the air and then sealed tight with an O-ring when storing it helps). Once again it is the water that is absorbed from that air that first wets and and then carries pieces of the paper filter into the carb that requires you to use a sintered bronze fuel filter or a fiberglass mesh one (a perforated 10 micron stainless steel prefilter before the pump works best with alcohol).

With a car you have to fill and drain the tank and then fill it to the brim again to displace any air. With my crewing on a blown alcohol funny car I know that we run it dry before then flushing the system with racing gas to keep the alcohol from drying everything out and eating up the stainless steel; rubber lined fuel supply lines. On my car there were no AN lines and I used neoprene fuel lines rated for alcohol to jump the short distance from the frame to the motor as everything else was a solid metal line clamped in place.

I converted an 850 double pumper carb over to using alcohol by drilling the air bleeds and metering plates as well as changing the inlet needle and seat followed by increasing jet size all according to instructions Holley had on their web site back when E-85 was first introduced. Now they want to sell you a special anodized aluminum carb built just for alcohol.

I built a high compression engine just to run alcohol, but was obstructed by my local supply being at first sporadic to eventually becoming nonexistent (their is one pump at the local roundy round track but it is open only on weekend nights and you have to pay to enter the race grounds just to get to it).

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a few stations around here but not many. It's still too hit and miss for me to switch. I just put racing fuel in when I go the track and crank the boost up. Otherwise I stick to around 7 lbs. on the street with 93 and water injection. I really don't need more boost than that on true street tires anyway and having E85 and able to bump the boost up would probalby lead to bad things without slicks. Go for it as I'm interested in the results for future reference. Clay
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The new motor for our Falcon is going to be E-85 a few of our guys that have converted to e-85 have gone at least a tenth faster not as good as alcohol. But we also don't need as much maint with the e85 the oil lasts longer and not as much water build up.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys are lucky to have it close!!! 13:1 hell ya in a heartbeat!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is E85 a homo word for race gas? Maybe Chaps is?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and you sir are a girly 130 pound'er Cool ha!!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh it's on man. My dad could so beat up your dad! I'm telling.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dad huh????? you never met my mom
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Dynamic compression ratio are you looking at running? I had a 1 hr long conversation with Mark Sullens last night and he answered alot of my questions.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

static is 8.98that is 2 deg. advanced or 8.793 @ icl
id have to look again to be certain
i talked to mark as well and he is very helpful
he suggested one of his 950 carbs (hp based)

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah mine is 9.40 or 9.84 depending on the head gasket I use pushing the limit a little he suggested I go to the thicker head gasket and the 9.40 and a 750 carb on the 347ci.

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71 Mach1 454ci Clevor 10.16@134 N/A 3850lbs race weight "Lost in fire"
03 Cobra Bone stock 12.42
68 Falcon 363ci 10.55@126 N/A
95 GT 363ci 11.08@118 N/A
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

8.98 it is
what is the limit according to mark?

i will also start with a .063 jet

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