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William Jones
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1971 Ford Mustang

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well he is finally back from deployment and we made some changes still a work in progress but definatley an improvement.
We put a manual valve body TH350 with a 3400 stall, 4.56 gears, eaton locker, 28 spline axles, some 28 X 10 1/2 slicks we had laying around, spohn adj torque arm, and a shift light in it. He left at 2400 from the footbrake, shifted at 6800. Timing is still low at 29 degrees locked. This was on 93 octane.

1.68 60ft
4.87 330ft
7.59 1/8th
90.07 mph
11.93 1/4
115.86 mph

He was happy but I feel there is still more in it once we get everything squared away.

Bam

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1933 Willys Coupe

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="William Jones"] Timing is still low at 29 degrees locked. This was on 93 octane.
/quote]

With the heads throw 34 at it and hang on.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you think 34 is going to be the sweet spot with these heads? I will be working my way up somebody told me they think 36. I know the plugs say it needs more than it has right now. Thank AF2

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

William Jones wrote:
So you think 34 is going to be the sweet spot with these heads? I will be working my way up somebody told me they think 36. I know the plugs say it needs more than it has right now. Thank AF2

Bam


William, I would start at 34 and go from there. Since it is locked you have complete control.

29 seems too low and will make a dog out of a good engine.

I run 36 with 13.2:1 and 110 Sunoco with no detonation.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I started it low since we are using pump gas and just planned to go up in small steps. I put it at 32 at 4000 rpm today and will see what the plugs tell me next time out. The timing walks back a few degress when the rpm comes up.

Bam

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71 Mach1 454ci Clevor 10.16@134 N/A 3850lbs race weight "Lost in fire"
03 Cobra Bone stock 12.42
68 Falcon 363ci 10.55@126 N/A
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

let er eat!!!!!
more timing and pics of straps!!!!!!!
kidding sounds good so far

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William Jones
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update this weekend at Pony Wars he wen't 11.71@117 still having issues with the 60ft the locker isn't working so his best 60ft was 1.71 and the converter is still to tight IMHO. Still need to get that worked out but it is coming around the timing was at 36 degrees.

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71 Mach1 454ci Clevor 10.16@134 N/A 3850lbs race weight "Lost in fire"
03 Cobra Bone stock 12.42
68 Falcon 363ci 10.55@126 N/A
95 GT 363ci 11.08@118 N/A
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats almost identicle to my new best n/a runs et and mph

yeah my converter is too tight as well (diff. tranny though)

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William Jones
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What your combo I was reading your post but didn't see any details is it a similar build?

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92 LX 454ci Clevor 9.24@142.53 N/A
71 Mach1 454ci Clevor 10.16@134 N/A 3850lbs race weight "Lost in fire"
03 Cobra Bone stock 12.42
68 Falcon 363ci 10.55@126 N/A
95 GT 363ci 11.08@118 N/A
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not even close
I have a lil 355,10.38 to 1,solid roller 250:252@.050
Stock crank and rods,old trw 4 eyebrows, cleaned up gmpp fastburns

400r4 rev man. V.b. 3500 hughes counter converter
Moser 9" 4.30 gears 28x12.5 et streets

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New bests for this car was 11.48@119 with a 1.68 60ft on the next pass the rearend broke on the line while powerbraking I think the motor saw 9000 grand when the rearend let loose the Alt belt went flying down the track LOL. This thing is still a pig off the line but pulls pretty good once its rolling. We added skinnies to it and lost about 40lbs of body weight the air was also very good.

Bam

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92 LX 454ci Clevor 9.24@142.53 N/A
71 Mach1 454ci Clevor 10.16@134 N/A 3850lbs race weight "Lost in fire"
03 Cobra Bone stock 12.42
68 Falcon 363ci 10.55@126 N/A
95 GT 363ci 11.08@118 N/A
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William Jones
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New bests for this engine combo. We put the motor in a 3060lb backhalf car instead of buying a $2200 torque arm rearend for the camaro. He got a killer deal and the car came with a powerglide with trans brake, and a 14X32 tire, and 5.14 gear. I was a little worried about going to the glide and less gear/tire combination. But the motor liked the lighter weight. We still have some room for improvement with the launch, a looser converter and some more gear. But leaving at 3200rpm off the brake and 36degrees of timing it really picked up.

1.479 60ft
4.414 330ft
6.883 1/8
99.57 mph
9.009 1000ft
10.813 1/4
124.44 mph

Bam

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92 LX 454ci Clevor 9.24@142.53 N/A
71 Mach1 454ci Clevor 10.16@134 N/A 3850lbs race weight "Lost in fire"
03 Cobra Bone stock 12.42
68 Falcon 363ci 10.55@126 N/A
95 GT 363ci 11.08@118 N/A
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like mid to bottom 11's was a good guess with the original setup. Nice times with lighter back halved car.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We could never really get the Z28 to 60 it was a pig and when we finally got it to 60ft a little better we started having rearend problems. His new car is better for what he wants to do (bracket race). Now he has a car that can also handle this motor with some nitrous on it when he gets ready.

Bam

Here is a pic of the new car and I had nothing to do with it being a Mustang I tried to get him to buy a 70 camaro back half car but it wasn't complete. This one was bolt his motor in and go racing.



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the Camaro's problems were with the rear suspension. the Mustang's three or four link (I can't remember exactly which it has) is the better set up than the old leaf springs that wrapped up and unloaded the suspension. The 8.8 has bigger axles than even a 12 bolt Chevy, but the case is weaker so the gear teeth can move apart which creates carnage as they are supposed to be meshed together.

Chevy used high nickle nodular iron for all of their rear center sections (even the lowly ten bolt with the 8.2 rear) where as Ford only used nodular iron on their high horse, high dollar cars.

I still think a Dana 60 is God's gift to drag racing. Designed to fit under military light trucks in WWII it is as close to unbreakable as any thing I have ever found.

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