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Big Dave Moderator

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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:53 am Post subject: End of an era |
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Merry Christmas and have a nice new year on the unemployment lines. GM announced last week (18DEC09) that they are closing the Tonawanda foundry, birth place and home to most big block Chevy engines. Apparently with all the new LS-x engines being cast from aluminum they no longer need a cast iron foundry. It signifies the end of all big blocks, with no hope of a come back, not to mention putting 220 people on unemployment lines.
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TSHACK Member

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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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That sucks big time  _________________ Just floor it & HANG ON |
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squeeezer Member

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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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thank the government  _________________
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lun40119 Member

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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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I thought that I read it was only the end of the production run in production vehicles. You will still be able to get GM BBC crate engines. I could be wrong though  _________________ Jake
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TSHACK Member

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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| squeeezer wrote: | thank the government  |
any one else tired of thanking them cur  _________________ Just floor it & HANG ON |
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Big Dave Moderator

Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 2437 Location: Tampa Florida 111706.68 points
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 3:04 am Post subject: |
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| squeeezer wrote: | thank the government  |
Yup they decreed the end of production for the 8.2 liter tall deck 496 BBC used in Suburbans and one ton trucks as a lower cost alternative to a diesel. Something about getting only 11 mph per gallon and bringing GM's C.A.F.E. numbers down (even though the senators running GM didn't know that a 3/4 truck and heavier is excempt from the restrictions) I don't know if the 8.2 liter was available as an option in the half ton trucks or not, but it probably was so it could have drug down the companies numbers. |
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10sec.et Member

Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 3098 Location: Houston,Texas 334570.00 points
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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Government Motors received the kiss of death when they sold their soul to the devil. electric bubble cars are the future of GM. i have to be honest, i was seriously considering putting a blue oval in the driveway the other day when my Impala started setting weird ignition codes. after the year long opti-spark fiasco, i have no patience for that sh!t anymore. fortunately, it seems it was just a couple bad connections at the opti and crank sensor.............. for now . _________________
| af2 wrote: | It seems we can look at our magical Balls and come up with a fix?
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Paul P Member

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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Stock up on blocks if you can I know I have a spare laying around...
The people at Dart that make the Big M must be jumping with Joy.
There will be companies making big blocks (better ones than GM) in the future I would not put too much on this. They have not made Muscle cars that hold Big blocks for years that hasn't stopped us. _________________ 2001 Focus 2.0 Zetec
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SMOKEmUP PostMaster

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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Don't they still make LSx iron blocks? _________________
| 10sec.et wrote: | | what exactly are you having trouble with ? |
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Big Dave Moderator

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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know if they still cast LS-x blocks in cast iron any more or not, but there will not be any of them cast in Tonawanda, New York any more. GM has three other foundries across the country, and they are casting aluminum block LS-x engines like gang busters. Just no more big block Chevy engines as the LS makes as much power with fewer emissions.
Where you guys should be worried is Congress is controlling GM's board decisions and they (Congress) have already told GM they do not want any more V-8 engines made, as they waste fuel. The BBC was just the first domino in the line of events that will have us driving four cylinder hybrids because "that is what America wants" according to Congress.
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10sec.et Member

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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Big Dave wrote: |
Where you guys should be worried is Congress is controlling GM's board decisions and they (Congress) have already told GM they do not want any more V-8 engines made, as they waste fuel. The BBC was just the first domino in the line of events that will have us driving four cylinder hybrids because "that is what America wants" according to Congress.
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but with more fuel efficient cars, how will the government make money off of fuel tax with less consumption ? oh wait, those GM cars have on-star. they will just tax you by the mile now. _________________
| af2 wrote: | It seems we can look at our magical Balls and come up with a fix?
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Blown65 Member

Joined: 26 Feb 2003 Posts: 152 Location: Edmonton,Alberta Canada 3519.10 points
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:47 am Post subject: Big Blocks |
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What about all the cast iron cratemotors that must be a huge business. Do they cast that stuff somewhere else??
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Big Dave Moderator

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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:15 pm Post subject: Re: Big Blocks |
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| Blown65 wrote: | What about all the cast iron cratemotors that must be a huge business. Do they cast that stuff somewhere else??
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:08 am Post subject: |
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| I wonder how this move is going to play out? It looks like plug-in hybrid electrics are in development......wooohooo! .....I'm not feeling it..... I tried. |
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squeeezer Member

Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Posts: 2390 Location: new richmond WI 190516.56 points
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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| SkinnRodd wrote: | | I wonder how this move is going to play out? It looks like plug-in hybrid electrics are in development......wooohooo! .....I'm not feeling it..... I tried. |
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