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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:29 pm    Post subject: shocks and springs question Reply with quote

i have a 73 350 Nova, and i dont have the owners manual. the shocks are shot in my car and i need to replace them. i was wondering if it is better to get a shock and spring combination ? what type of shock and spring should i get, anyone had any good luck with any particular brands. i want just a nice ride, i dont think that i need anything to stiff. also i was wondering where to look for shocks. are there shocks with springs around them on only the front, with leaf springs in the back. also is it worth replacing the leaf springs? i was gonna put 15's in the front and 17's in the back. does this affect what shocks and springs i should get? if anyone has any advice, that would be greatly appreciated. thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for a street car i absolutely love koni

they come with a lifetime warantee .....as they shoud they are more$$$$$$$$$$$

i put a set of shocks and struts in my camaro back in 2000 and they are still like new

bilstein is my next choice

if you want super cheapies id say a kyb

drag race is another story and you must engineer your whole setup even more than a street car
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

squeeezer wrote:

if you want super cheapies id say a kyb




actually the KYBs would be good for a driver but if you have plenty of $$$ then the aforementioned will do quite nicely. i wouldnt use anything cheaper like the $11 Autozone crap. BTW, KYBs are about $30 each. you didnt specify what your budget was.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used The kyb in two different cars. Never had any problems.
I won autocrosses in both cars. The &4 camaro will get koni or bistein though. But daily drivers KYB would be fine I think.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I run Bilstein shocks. They are a bit more expensive than the domestics but they are a higher quality componet that will take racing abuse and still let you drive home with out shaking all the fiz out of your soda. I would also look into trying to find a Police car based upon the Nova 4 dr sdn as it will have a heavy duty suspension that you could swap on to your car for peanuts if you can find your year in a bone yard (that is reaching back a ways). It will have a heavy duty front sway bar, heavy duty (not stiffer uniform wound springs but progressive wound coils) and the rear leafs are all multi leafs with six leafs on the passenger side and five leafs on the drivers side and all have a 3.09 open 8.5 inch corporate rear end.

They actually have a better suspension package than the SS did when it came from the factory.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

10sec.et wrote:
squeeezer wrote:

if you want super cheapies id say a kyb




actually the KYBs would be good for a driver but if you have plenty of $$$ then the aforementioned will do quite nicely. i wouldnt use anything cheaper like the $11 Autozone crap. BTW, KYBs are about $30 each. you didnt specify what your budget was.








to me $30 are super cheapies kyb shocks would be the cheapest id buy....................for MY toys
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So how much difference are there between the 3?

What the heck is wrong with Monroe or others?

I see a pissen match that cracks me up! Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

af2 wrote:
So how much difference are there between the 3?

What the heck is wrong with Monroe or others?

I see a pissen match that cracks me up! Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing


i have actually seen a KYB and a Monroe disassembled and the KYB is definitely a better shock. although, it was a KYB rep that pointed out the differences..... the KYB had better seals, bearings instead of bushings and the shaft was a better quality steel instead of just chrome plated steel. i DID however, put Monroes back on my Impala when it was time for shocks Devil . i put the good stuff on the Cutlass Wink .

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my budget is about 2-300 dollars. i was looking for just a nice ride for a daily driver, but still a nice shock.

are there springs in the front that i should replace as well ?

while i am doing this, should i upgrade any other part of the suspension ?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really in the budget right now, but have a general look at the condition of all of the rubber components in the suspension (front and rear). If they are originals, they will need to be replaced with polygraphite or equivalent to help take advantage of the grip modern tires can provide. A larger sway bar as Big Dave mentioned would be excellent as the one on my 72 is pretty rinky dink. I think classiccarsprings.com has the best prices I could find on front and rear springs. You can always upgrade as money comes available, probably right now a good shock of your choice and maybe a larger swaybar would be the best bangs for the buck. Clay
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

af2 wrote:
So how much difference are there between the 3?

What the heck is wrong with Monroe or others?

I see a pissen match that cracks me up! Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing






when you work with monroe and the warrantee issues that come with em on a daily basis you would understand
still monroe is better than gabriel (i had to work with these years ago thank god not anymore

and price and warantee is a big difference also adjustability
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first real job was at an auto parts/tire store and I changed more shocks than you can shake a stick at Sad . The vast majority of them were still good. Great sales people there. Shocks last a long time and springs even longer. I would buy a set of cheapie gas shocks and call it good git-er-done. Save your money for your tires where it makes the most difference. An alignment wouldn't hurt either.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FRITODAVE wrote:
My first real job was at an auto parts/tire store and I changed more shocks than you can shake a stick at Sad . The vast majority of them were still good. Great sales people there. Shocks last a long time and springs even longer. I would buy a set of cheapie gas shocks and call it good git-er-done. Save your money for your tires where it makes the most difference. An alignment wouldn't hurt either.








but if you delve into suspension changes such as spring rates your shocks MUST be matched
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