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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:19 pm    Post subject: of course I end up with the weird stuff Reply with quote

well, i was going to order my Moser axles today but i ran into some issues with the dimensions. when i gave the measurements to the Moser salesman the "stick-out" measurement was 3/4" too short (1 1/2 total Shocked ). stick-out was how they referred to the amount that the axle sticks out of the housing, or the "B" measurement. after some re-measuring and some research i found out that my drum brakes that i was going to install were something from a 1985 alien space ship. actually they are supposed to be from a Vista Cruiser but the spacing is WAY off. according to Moser this drum setup i have is totally foreign to the standard American axle dimensions. apparently i acquired something that is NOT U.S. made. last time i saw a rear end that didnt match anything normal, it was an Australian made diff in a Firebird. fortunately i have not yet welded the housing ends on and the tubes are still a little long (due to offset in backing plate). on the positive side, i get to upgrade to rear disc brakes now Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What spline axle are you going to run?

What kind of warranty does Moser offer?

This company offers a lifetime replacement warranty for 35 and 40 spline axles.
http://www.dutchmanms.com/

I know someone who snapped a 35 spline Dutchman axle and they wanted to see the parts. I guess they only wanted the parts for measurements .... 2 days later he had a new axle.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nwcc wrote:
What spline axle are you going to run?

What kind of warranty does Moser offer?

This company offers a lifetime replacement warranty for 35 and 40 spline axles.
http://www.dutchmanms.com/

I know someone who snapped a 35 spline Dutchman axle and they wanted to see the parts. I guess they only wanted the parts for measurements .... 2 days later he had a new axle.


after several calls to Moser, i decided to go with 35 spline axles. Moser is EXTREMELY helpful when youre not sure on something.

their warranty is about the same as Dutchman.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

10sec.et wrote:
nwcc wrote:
What spline axle are you going to run?

What kind of warranty does Moser offer?

This company offers a lifetime replacement warranty for 35 and 40 spline axles.
http://www.dutchmanms.com/

I know someone who snapped a 35 spline Dutchman axle and they wanted to see the parts. I guess they only wanted the parts for measurements .... 2 days later he had a new axle.


after several calls to Moser, i decided to go with 35 spline axles. Moser is EXTREMELY helpful when youre not sure on something.

their warranty is about the same as Dutchman.


The rear brakes will be pretty small if I read this correct?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The rear brakes will be pretty small if I read this correct?



i plan to use rear disc brakes from a late 80s camaro/firebird. if that brake setup is inadequate, now would be the time for some constructive criticism.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd buy alittle of this


AND THIS



Or maybe this:


AS with alot of other parts I buy.... you can get them here.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/m/18_Race-Car-Brake-Rotors-and-Hats.html
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah Moser helps alot and yes their warranties are great.
I had no problems installing my narrowed rear in my camaro last fall.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would definitely go with a floating rotor system. BTW, did you decide to go spool or detroit locker?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nwcc wrote:
I'd buy alittle of this


AND THIS



Or maybe this:


AS with alot of other parts I buy.... you can get them here.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/m/18_Race-Car-Brake-Rotors-and-Hats.html



^^^found my new brake system^^^. THANKS NWCC !!! thats actually cheaper than the other setup i was considering.


beersngars, i decided to go with the spool. the car wont see a lot of srteet driving and, if at all possible, NEVER driven in the rain. besides that it was much cheaper and i was afraid that eventually i would get to the point that i would NEED a spool. the car is only going to get faster Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey 10sec, check out Speedway's tabs and brackets when you go there. They have some that would take hours to make and are at a great price. Their steering u-joints are a good one also.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hey 10sec, check out Speedway's tabs and brackets when you go there. They have some that would take hours to make and are at a great price. Their steering u-joints are a good one also.


the brakes are an unexpected upgrade. im not fabbing ANYTHING!!! besides, for the price of those brackets, only an idiot would waste the time to build em Wink .

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hey 10sec, check out Speedway's tabs and brackets when you go there. They have some that would take hours to make and are at a great price. Their steering u-joints are a good one also.


the brakes are an unexpected upgrade. im not fabbing ANYTHING!!! besides, for the price of those brackets, only an idiot would waste the time to build em Wink .


I only tried it once! Honest. Embarassed Embarassed
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the Dutchmann link, might just come in handy for me too. Been thinking I am pushing stock parts a little hard hunting 1.5s at 4200lbs Twisted Evil .

You guys really come up with some interesting parts sources. Idea
The brakes are interesting too.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nwcc wrote:

This company offers a lifetime replacement warranty for 35 and 40 spline axles.
http://www.dutchmanms.com/

I know someone who snapped a 35 spline Dutchman axle and they wanted to see the parts. I guess they only wanted the parts for measurements .... 2 days later he had a new axle.


the Moser warranty, according to my catalog, is... they will replace 33, 35, 40 spline axles for a period of ten(10) years after the date of purchase if it is broken at the splined end from excessive horsepower. "at the sole option of Moser Engineering, Inc" the 33 spline will be replaced with 35 spline. 35 with 40 and 40 with another 40 spline axle free of charge.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I only tried it once! Honest. Embarassed Embarassed


Shocked Laughing the time it would take to fab with a torch, grinder, & drill-press those brackets would cost $200.

i had a customer bring me a piece of 1/4" plate and wanted about 8 holes drilled in a specific pattern and was pissed when he found out it would cost more than $5. its really amazing how much work there is in fabbing something as simple as a flat steel bracket. unless of course you dont give a $hit about the quality of your work and just blow holes with a torch and oddly bolt up warped, misshapen pieces of crap.

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