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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:21 pm    Post subject: New Project Reply with quote

I found this 73 Plymouth Duster already tubed, tubbed, 6 point roll cage, Dana 60 with 5:13's, fuel cell, etc.

I plan on building a 360 w/ 727. It should be a fun father and son project.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That will be a great project!!! The father/son is how we got mine going!!! Great luck getting it there!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always liked that body.
That's going to have to be some 360 to not run out of gear with the 5.13's.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeep_406 wrote:
Always liked that body.
That's going to have to be some 360 to not run out of gear with the 5.13's.

The tire diameter looks pretty big, that should tame those gears a bit. Are you planning on running 1/4 mi or 1/8 mi?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great project car. I would add to the existing six point to at least a ten point as it is a forty year old Uni-body car that may have been abused in it's past by the possibly of someone racing it!

When I was younger and less informed and still learning by experiment instead of book learning; it puzzled me how the Duster's were so potent a competitor in the drag race when to my way of thinking they were handicapped with only 340 cubes vs. a 350 and ran Carter AFB's instead of the more popular Holleys (in the four barreled variant anyway; not too many six pack Dusters to be had). Turns out every Duster made has 18 heads vs. the Chevy's 23 valve angle for better breathing right out of the box. But I was just looking at the decals and manufactures marketing back then and not the engineering underneath the labeling.

A 360 cid Commando alum head solid roller cammed engine with fender-well headers is how I would build it. With a lift off "Six Pack" scoop on your flat black matte painted fiberglass hood. I'd also consider a "Rod Shop", "Ramcharger", or "Sox & Martin" inspired seventies paint scheme (I have all of the old Hot Rod mag's from the period if you need inspiration of a picture or three for paint).


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Duster has never been raced. The guy building it did a lot of work, then lost interest. Since both of our local drag strips are 1/8 mile, I think the gears will be fine. I'm still out to lunch on the transmission. 727 or 904 ?????

I have access to 360, 413 and 440 engines. Oh, and a 318. Shocked

The car was original a 340 / 4-speed car.

As for paint, I had thought about the Sox and Martin theme but I think we have one of their old cars running there now. I have been thinking about orange w/ flat black.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a 69 Dodge dart Swinger and a 69 Barracuda with a 340 and the 727 trans. I think the 904 was a much lighter duty trans. The 727 will take a lot of abuse.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave - not a 440? Deja vu...... Very Happy . Clay
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shame there are no elephants roaming around loose in his neck of the woods.

The 727 should be your choice for the auto, though I personally would slap a New Process A833 back into it after I had ground off every other synchro tooth and filed judiciously on the hubs and sliders to debur it.

If he did nothing else in his life time Ronnie proved you can make a Duster fly just as fast with a 4 speed as an automatic. Just takes a lot of practice and a God given gift; but we won't find the next "Mr. Automatic" until some actually tries again.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave , we used to do the same thing with the M-22 Muncie 4-speeds and I could run thru some gears but now that I'm older, I may not be as fast. Crying or Very sad

My son will be driving a little and I just hate rebuilding 4-speeds if you know what I mean. Laughing

I have located a 727 at a price I can afford already hooked to a 1990 360 cdi engine. Do you think that engine will be OK ??
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would definitely build on a 360 block, Indy, Edelbrock, and Mother Mopar have excellent replacement heads. $1,300 buys a set of professionally CNC ported Edelbrock heads from Indy ready to race.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave, would you mind posting a Rod Shop and Ramcharger pic ?

I'm actually thinking of an orange and flat black paint scheme but I'm still open for new colors.

There is a local guy that does some awesome Mopar head work in my area. I may try him out on the stock heads first. My budget will be just under $10,000 so I'll have to cut corners when I can.

My son really wanted to build a Mustang but I like winning. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks like a good start on a great project. I'd go with the 360/727 combo myself. I'm awefully fond of smallblocks.

Tell your son he already has 1 bellybutton... he doesn't need another one for a car! hahaha

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have a 340 that .080 over 12.5-1 with fully ported x heads edelbrock single plane torker w /AED 750 dp i'm using a crane hydraulic special grind cam split at .050 244/252 , 516/525 lift
it is good between 3500 to 7200 with a automatic and 3.90 gearset in my 70dodge stepside mudbogger it launches like no tomorrow. I only use it for a 100 yd dash but the potential is incredible, I am pulling it and putting it in a 48 studebaker
pick up for the strip. there is nothing like winding a small mopar
try it and enjoy it and try something different if it don't satisfy
and by the way nice duster .
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

64 C-10 wrote:
Dave, would you mind posting a Rod Shop and Ramcharger pic ?

I'm actually thinking of an orange and flat black paint scheme but I'm still open for new colors.
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My son really wanted to build a Mustang but I like winning. Laughing


I will post them, but first I will have to find and scan them. Just got back from visiting relatives, will check for storm damage first then see what I can find for you.


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