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'69 Toronado 455" Engine w/big valve C Heads For Sale in NY

 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:26 pm    Post subject: '69 Toronado 455" Engine w/big valve C Heads For Sale in NY Reply with quote

I picked up a '69 Toro 455" with the big valve C heads recently.

I talked to a guy that almost bought the engine from a previous owner. He said it turns over fine, they just couldn't get any spark - so they gave up. [When I went to undo the converter bolts, it rotated with no problem at all - so I can verify that].

With a good carb, coil & new points - I have no reason to think this wouldn't be a good runner. This has 10.5:1 compression(actual is less) and rated at 375hp & 510ft/lbs.

I plan to pull the oil pan to double check the lower end. I'll post once I'm able to get it on the engine stand. No pics yet.

Price is $600/best. Located in Binghamton, NY 13901.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe a stupid question thats what kind of motor??
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

V8BLOOD wrote:
maybe a stupid question thats what kind of motor??


thats a big block Oldsmobile. massive torque under 5000 rpm. set up right with a well built Q-jet carb it makes a great street motor that will average 15 to 18 mpg. unfortunately it requires an Olds specialist to properly build it. send it to a Chevy/Ford machinist and you will end up with scrap metal.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for replying 10sec.

BTW.....this engine was sold, but I forgot to mark it here as such.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

10sec.et wrote:
V8BLOOD wrote:
maybe a stupid question thats what kind of motor??


thats a big block Oldsmobile. massive torque under 5000 rpm. set up right with a well built Q-jet carb it makes a great street motor that will average 15 to 18 mpg. unfortunately it requires an Olds specialist to properly build it. send it to a Chevy/Ford machinist and you will end up with scrap metal.


I miss my old 65 F-85 with its W-30 455 Crying or Very sad
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10sec.et wrote:
V8BLOOD wrote:
maybe a stupid question thats what kind of motor??


thats a big block Oldsmobile. massive torque under 5000 rpm. set up right with a well built Q-jet carb it makes a great street motor that will average 15 to 18 mpg. unfortunately it requires an Olds specialist to properly build it. send it to a Chevy/Ford machinist and you will end up with scrap metal.





?????????????.....got a story or somethin
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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?????????????.....got a story or somethin


... or somethin. my first hot rod was an Olds powered Chevy pickup. it had a 76 455 with the "J" casting smog heads. still had no problem making the Chevy 454 SS pickup (along with a number of SBC pickups) look pathetic. the older Olds motors were a force to be reckoned with. forget horsepower, those motors are for TORQUE Twisted Evil .

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no what i mean is the machinist aspect
ford/chevy machinist cant do up an olds motor.....thats silly
you must have a story about that
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there are a lot of differences between building an Olds and "others". one of the main issues is the oiling system on the Olds. it requires special attention to just about everything. the block needs oil restrictors, cross-drilled crank, enlarged oil holes in the bearings, special prep to stock rods, etc. i could spend days researching all of the intricate details and posting them here but i just dont have the time. if you really want to know about building the Olds motors go to www.realoldspower.com. Mondello also has a technical reference manual that has a lot of good info.

i currently have a 455 motor that was given to me because "those motors are junk... it keeps eating up the mains". it was rebuilt twice to factory specs. thats too tight and not enough oil supply where it needs it.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

squeeezer wrote:
no what i mean is the machinist aspect
ford/chevy machinist cant do up an olds motor.....thats silly
you must have a story about that


Add Buick engines to that list.....BIG time.

I've heard just about every possible Chevy related screw up when it comes to building Buick engines. Too loose bearing clearances, improper valve stem heights, etc.

HV oil pumps on a Buick are another sore spot!! Good way to shear off the dist. gears roll pin. Not to mention destroy the dist. & cam gears.

I'm sure Caddy & Mopar guys can chime in too. Very Happy

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