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10sec.et Member

Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 3100 Location: Houston,Texas 334625.24 points
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:18 am Post subject: |
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theres more to porting than size. just making the ports bigger doesnt necessarily improve flow. unfortunately, i have no specific experience with the heads you have so i cant really offer much help on porting. best thing (IMO) for you to do is research what has been done to your heads with success and attempt to duplicate the port work. _________________
| af2 wrote: | It seems we can look at our magical Balls and come up with a fix?
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Skunkworkx Member

Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 339 Location: Harford Co. Maryland 9922.72 points
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Those are some nice numbers Paul. _________________ 68 Camaro (LSx time)
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af2 Member

Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Posts: 5260 Location: grassvalley, ca 62510.18 points
1933 Willys Coupe
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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Here is a web site you guys need to bookmark.
http://users.erols.com/srweiss/tablehdc.htm
Most of the flow#s are from excellent porters.
The heads you have are a S/R= stock replacement and are fine for a bone stock 350 that see's south of 4500 most the time.
I will post in a while what I think your combo needs after looking at the cam specs.
You do realize that is backwards from what should be done?  |
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af2 Member

Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Posts: 5260 Location: grassvalley, ca 62510.18 points
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Do you guys want to see how stupid it gets flow wise????
I want to see the velocitity probe #'s!!!
http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=25623&start=90
Had to edit because of spelling!!!!!!!! 
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af2 Member

Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Posts: 5260 Location: grassvalley, ca 62510.18 points
1933 Willys Coupe
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:35 pm Post subject: Re: 406 |
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296ah-8 comp cam |
Do you have a real Comp#.
A Hour later and I find no such #  |
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Skunkworkx Member

Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 339 Location: Harford Co. Maryland 9922.72 points
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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286ah-8 236/244.523/518 108° hydraulic
This is what I went off of. _________________ 68 Camaro (LSx time)
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af2 Member

Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Posts: 5260 Location: grassvalley, ca 62510.18 points
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Skunkworkx wrote: | 286ah-8 236/244.523/518 108° hydraulic
This is what I went off of. |
I saw that. |
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af2 Member

Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Posts: 5260 Location: grassvalley, ca 62510.18 points
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:00 am Post subject: |
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FN glasses on guys!!!!!
The 296 is at 246/253@ .050!!! For a flat Hydro that is way more than a bunch!!! They say 3000-6800 and that will never happen unless you are revving in neutral.
I will tell you on the 2 motors I buildt( spelling) the Hydro is a lazy a$$ cam!
I would take a solid any day for the fact of the quick ramps and the extended rpm.
Before I even say the heads I would run I would like to see that cam back in Comps storage!  |
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af2 Member

Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Posts: 5260 Location: grassvalley, ca 62510.18 points
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:19 am Post subject: |
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| I forgot to say I ran a guy that had a Chevelle with a Crower Hydro that he said was a 8000 rpm 360" engine and laughed to the bank after running him with my .030/.030 cammed 327 in my 2900 lb Vega. I shifted at 7800 with good springs. |
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af2 Member

Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Posts: 5260 Location: grassvalley, ca 62510.18 points
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:24 am Post subject: |
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Sorry. I am on a roll!!!
Converter is getting sent!!!  |
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novaguy71 Newbie
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| I had a comp 300b-6 in it before this cam and I ended up swipping few lobes on it. I called comp cams and they said id make the most power with the 296h with the setup I have... does this cam not make sence to u??? I'm still learning on the performace end of engines |
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Paul P Member

Joined: 15 Aug 2002 Posts: 1948 Location: Townsend, Mass. 67112.98 points
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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Other than more head flow, Compression and Cam. A N20 kit will get you there. Not much else to say. _________________ 2001 Focus 2.0 Zetec
15.63@87 MPH 1/4mi
1971 - Chevelle 408 SBC N.A.
6.95@98.6 MPH 1/8mi
10.97@121 MPH 1/4mi
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Big Dave Moderator

Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 2437 Location: Tampa Florida 111706.68 points
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Paul P wrote: | Decided to play with Excel and put my airflow numbers in a chart like the Profilers. Kind of interesting to look at that way.
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Looks like those are realy good street heads as the rate of increase in cfm peaks and noses over at 0.450" of lift which will include 95 % of all the cam grinds in the catalog. Racing cams where you are lifting the valve 0.700-0.900 inches off the seat are relatively rare and most of them are custom grinds for racers who do not frequently share their cam specs.
There are very few as cast heads that flow well past 0.500" inch of lift; but then again hooking up a carbide bur to your three quarter horse M-3 quil drill press isn't the way to go either. It isn't the amount of metal removed but where that counts.
The best 23 degree port jobs are those that try and turn a 23 degree head into an 18 degree head and keep it's original exterior shape.
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Paul P Member

Joined: 15 Aug 2002 Posts: 1948 Location: Townsend, Mass. 67112.98 points
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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I'm putting the valve open a bit more than .400 lift but yes in fact these with a street cam would make really good power too.
They did flow 284 on the exhaust with a tube.....
With this kind of area under the curve a race motor will breath very well also. I'll be shooting for low 10's _________________ 2001 Focus 2.0 Zetec
15.63@87 MPH 1/4mi
1971 - Chevelle 408 SBC N.A.
6.95@98.6 MPH 1/8mi
10.97@121 MPH 1/4mi
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Pro Fleetline Member
Joined: 04 Jun 2011 Posts: 20
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 3:40 am Post subject: |
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Pro filers are awesome heads running a set of Chad Speiers 210
Pro-filers wow amazing lil head on my 406.
Heres my flow chart could have had them open up more and still can but i had them done to match my current engine combo! car has some Assss. amazing head
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