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Knarley Darley Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| In my case high rpm is the main stress, although these combos are surprisingly easy on parts. Going off memory, the pistons weigh 540 grams which isnt bad for a 4.615 slug, and ironically the rod weight is almost identical. The pins weigh 140, and I cant remember what the ring package weighed 40 maybe? I was able to reuse the rod and main bearings, one of the beauties of a dry sump. Those blowers make gobs of torque and you need some stout parts to handle it. I have a friend with a blown gas hydro, and he also runs arias pistons with good results. |
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af2 Member

Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Posts: 5260 Location: grassvalley, ca 62510.18 points
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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The one mentioned shifts at 9500.
The pistons are way more than 540 grams. (Hemi)  |
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Blown65 Member

Joined: 26 Feb 2003 Posts: 152 Location: Edmonton,Alberta Canada 3519.10 points
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:08 am Post subject: Rods |
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I'll probably open up a can of worms here but from what I have seen and read is , the rod is usually not the point of failure but the rod bolt.Sometimes from not changing them when needed or improper streaching procedures.
But for the money I am changing the rods @ 50 passes whether they need it or not.
Corey _________________ Corey
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squeeezer Member

Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Posts: 2390 Location: new richmond WI 190516.56 points
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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i cant wait for the day i can spend this kinda money on parts
im thinking soon  _________________
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Blown65 Member

Joined: 26 Feb 2003 Posts: 152 Location: Edmonton,Alberta Canada 3519.10 points
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:02 pm Post subject: Rod /Piston |
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I've been building this engine for 4 yrs, because unfortunately I'm not independently wealthy either.
I have learned in the past its better to wait a while than buy cheaper parts, I don't have very good luck with those.
Corey _________________ Corey
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Knarley Darley Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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Squeezer. Just have more kids like I did and then you can afford everything  |
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af2 Member

Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Posts: 5260 Location: grassvalley, ca 62510.18 points
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Knarley Darley wrote: | Squeezer. Just have more kids like I did and then you can afford everything  |
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lun40119 Member

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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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I am going to quit my job, and have 10 kids and live off the taxpayers........then I will be able to make my dreams come true. To hell with this work everyday, housepayment, buy my own health, life, home, and auto insurance. The "CHANGE" will provide all of that for me......  _________________ Jake
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10sec.et Member

Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 3100 Location: Houston,Texas 334625.24 points
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| lun40119 wrote: | | I am going to quit my job, and have 10 kids and live off the taxpayers........then I will be able to make my dreams come true. |
no, no, no youre doing it wrong. you need to have 10 kids, get full custody, and live off of the child support and alimony. _________________
| af2 wrote: | It seems we can look at our magical Balls and come up with a fix?
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Big Dave Moderator

Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 2437 Location: Tampa Florida 111706.68 points
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:29 am Post subject: |
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| 10sec.et wrote: | | lun40119 wrote: | | I am going to quit my job, and have 10 kids and live off the taxpayers........then I will be able to make my dreams come true. |
no, no, no youre doing it wrong. you need to have 10 kids, get full custody, and live off of the child support and alimony. |
I thought you had to be a white female for that to work?
I used Childs and Albert rings, JE piston, Howards rods and a Callies crankshaft in my Big Block. More because they are American made than for any high performance advantage.
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Blown65 Member

Joined: 26 Feb 2003 Posts: 152 Location: Edmonton,Alberta Canada 3519.10 points
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:16 am Post subject: |
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I am from Canada and I would love to purchase parts manufactured in my country, but unless you have a snowmobile or a quad nobody knows how to make $hit.
Corey _________________ Corey
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10sec.et Member

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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Big Dave wrote: | | 10sec.et wrote: | | lun40119 wrote: | | I am going to quit my job, and have 10 kids and live off the taxpayers........then I will be able to make my dreams come true. |
no, no, no youre doing it wrong. you need to have 10 kids, get full custody, and live off of the child support and alimony. |
I thought you had to be a white female for that to work?
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the libs are in control of congress. gender is only a matter of perception  _________________
| af2 wrote: | It seems we can look at our magical Balls and come up with a fix?
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10sec.et Member

Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 3100 Location: Houston,Texas 334625.24 points
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:41 pm Post subject: Re: Rods |
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| Blown65 wrote: | I looked at the GRP rods as well, I believe GRP and MGP rods are built by Giannone brothers. One owns GRP and the other MGP.
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i cant speak from experience but a lot of Olds guys (those running alum rods) are using the GRPs. due to the fact that we have a limited ammount of engine blocks, i would assume that those are some of the best rods. i have no idea how often the rods are changed. hope this helps. _________________
| af2 wrote: | It seems we can look at our magical Balls and come up with a fix?
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clay Moderator

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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:20 am Post subject: |
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Look at the latest CarCraft. The centerfold features Mike Morans twin turbo 572. It says they run it 100 passes before tearing the motor down and then it's mainly to change the rods. Says they make around 3700 h.p. - sounds like some pretty good parts to survive that for that long. I'll look today to see what they run. Clay _________________ I have done so much with so little for so long, I can now do anything with nothing. |
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Blown65 Member

Joined: 26 Feb 2003 Posts: 152 Location: Edmonton,Alberta Canada 3519.10 points
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:38 pm Post subject: Rod/Pistons |
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100 runs at close to 4000 HP. Wow he has some VERY good parts. I guess if you can afford to blow it up, you have a tendency to push the time between tear downs.
I would be curious to find out which rods he is running, I understand he builds everything custom. The rods are probably one off's just for him.
Cool stuff either way.
Corey _________________ Corey
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