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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:59 pm    Post subject: KYB gas adjust shocks Reply with quote

just bought a set are they worth it?
using them in the rear.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am assuming the idea here is to soften the rear to let weight come back Question
I know this will sound all wrong to a lot of folks but IMO what you want is the front to rise and transfer weight BUT then the rear has to be able to support that weight, softening the shocks is not the way to accomplish that.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The spring supports the vehicle and the shock is there to limit spring movement. There are many ignoramuses out there with holes punched in their trunks from air shocks and the like trying to jack up the rear or make up for weak springs. I will be the first to say not true I disagree with that opinion. Rock hard rear springs are not going to give the best launch either.

Not that anyone on this forum is like that.....
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes springs do the supporting but too soft a shock lets the body hammer the spring down too abruptly.

On my car I have about the softest available factory springs and put Airlift bags in them plumbed seperate so I can offset the pressure and have maximum range to work with. I have never jacked the pressure on them(max is 35 but think 25 is the max I have ever gone in right rear) but they certainly are a BIG part of the low 1.6 short times my car runs. It will lift a tire off the ground if the prep is good, how many truely street cars at over 2 tons with a 116" wheelbase can do that?

Lot of guys out there with Impalas with QA1s not 60ing any better than I am.

I should say my experiance is with a mile long, body on frame pig so it very well could require something different than more traditional performance vehicles.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the KYB gas adjust shocks are top quality pieces. they do tend to be a bit stiffer than most. when its time for shocks on my Impala, thats whats going on it. ironically though, theres no adjustments to the gas adjust shocks Confused . that is, unless KYB has made some changes to them recently.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol I have no shocks in the rear now.
jut buying a cheap set to dampen the springs a bit.
being a multileaf rear the springs are already quite stiff.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dawg wrote:
lol I have no shocks in the rear now.
jut buying a cheap set to dampen the springs a bit.
being a multileaf rear the springs are already quite stiff.


I've been staying out of this, 'til now. A shock is required regardless of how stiff the spring is. It is a safety issue for braking if nothing else. A standard 50/50 valved shock is your best choice for a non-adjustable (I couldn't find adjustable shocks for my Impala either, but rather than choosing KYB's I went with gas filled HD Bilstein's for my nearly stock two ton sled).

The best shock would be double adjustable KYB's for your Camaro as they cost the same as my non-adjustable Bilstein’s but you can tune the jounce and rebound to control wheel hop and promote weight transfer.

If you can only justify one set of double adjustable shocks they belong on the front for any kind of racing (except circle track, were you’d stick them on the passenger side of the car). 90/10 front shocks are great for drag racing but dangerous on the street, so a set of adjustable shocks really are worth investing in for the front of the car.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might take a look at Strange Engineerings offerings. I have a single adjustable set on the rear of mine and will put some more up front soon. Very nice quality and rebuildable if ever necessary.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a set of monroe shocks with just the right amount of dampening.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

10sec.et wrote:
the KYB gas adjust shocks are top quality pieces. they do tend to be a bit stiffer than most. when its time for shocks on my Impala, thats whats going on it. ironically though, theres no adjustments to the gas adjust shocks Confused . that is, unless KYB has made some changes to them recently.


The 90s Impala guys are not happy with the KYBs for that application. Even guys who had them on other cars and loved them are not happy with them on the Impala for some reason.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

96capriceMGR wrote:
10sec.et wrote:
the KYB gas adjust shocks are top quality pieces. they do tend to be a bit stiffer than most. when its time for shocks on my Impala, thats whats going on it. ironically though, theres no adjustments to the gas adjust shocks Confused . that is, unless KYB has made some changes to them recently.


The 90s Impala guys are not happy with the KYBs for that application. Even guys who had them on other cars and loved them are not happy with them on the Impala for some reason.


good to know. although the KYBs are excellent shocks, i do know from experience from my customers that they are not satisfactory on EVERY vehicle. my Impala currently has Monroe Sensa-Trac shocks on it. i have no complaints about them but was considering the KYBs because (as you stated) they were great on my other vehicles. what ARE the Impala guys using ?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will shoot you a PM.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Dave wrote:
I went with gas filled HD Bilstein's for my nearly stock two ton sled).

Excellent choice. Bilstein will revalve them, too. They can offer rate suggestions, or you can specify settings on rebound and compression.

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